Gary studied the art of drum making with an Objibwe Native in New Mexico, and says, "To me, drumming is the spiritual made physical by the sound and motion of the drum."  

In October of 1991 Gary went through the New Warrior Training Adventure where his mission became: "Carry the spirit and energy of the drum to men and women throughout the world." 

Drums have connected Gary to people throughout the country. Gary's background in counseling has made him realize that a lot of counseling can be done in ways that are not spoken, and that includes the emotions and feelings that go on with people drumming.